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 I have to admit, I never thought I would admit to unabashedly enjoying a Scooby Doo show.  Prior to now, my only experience with Scooby-Doo as a franchise was catching old episodes on my Grandparents' cable when I was sick as a kid and stayed home from school.

But Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated isn't just good for a Scooby Doo show.  It might be the best thing I've watched so far this year.  I can hear the cries of shock, I know.  You say, "But Ry, Scooby Doo is a weird 70s relic about mystery-solvin' teens and their hungry great dane - not good television."  And before finishing Mystery Incorporated, I would have agreed with you!  Such is the power of this show.

You see, for the first time in 40+ years, the characters actually have character.  Sure, Fred is all about traps, Shaggy and Scooby eat a lot, Daphne gets captured, and Velma is the genius who looses her glasses and says "Jinkies!".  But this go around, the creators were actually allowed to create interpersonal relationships and conflcts.  The show starts out with Shaggy and Velma dating, and progresses to add Fred and Daphne into the mix.  The interpersonal relationships between the characters are never static, and it always takes into account material from the preceeding episodes.  The gang are given parents for the first time, too, and live in a town called Crystal Cove that bills itself "The Most Haunted Place on Earth" and depends on monster tourism.  So when they unmask criminals who could be potential tourist draws, they really are "meddling kids!"  Genius.

This is without even mentioning all the delicious backstory. It starts with another group calling themselves Mystery Incorporated who disappeared in the caves beneath the town twenty years ago, and goes all the way back to ancient Mayan prophecy.  Every episode has a more or less self-contained mystery, but the writers deftly weave the central mystery in and out through most of the episodes.  Suffice to say the climax of S2 is epic and an incredible payoff.  I mean, Velma brings up string theory in the final few episodes.  How is that not amazing?

The show is full of hilarious sci-fi and horror references and great voice acting too.  Fred and Scooby are voiced by the one-of-a-kind Frank Welker, who is an animation voice-acting legend and has been portraying these characters for something like 40 years.  For the Monster High/Ever After High crowd, Kate Higgins (Frenkie Stein/Briar Beauty) voices the mayor in the second season, which was a fun treat.  Patrick Warburton turns in a great performance as the Sheriff.

So yeah, apparently I totally fell in love with a Scooby-Doo show.  I'm actually afraid to go and check out any of the other material produced for this franchise, though, because I know it won't be as good as what I've just finished.  And ye gods, I totally want to get a little bit of merchandise for my toy collection now. >_<

Date: 2015-04-01 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelykitta.livejournal.com
I can tell you now, it's not worth it after watching Mystery Incorporated.

And this reminds me, I gotta finish watching it...

Date: 2015-04-01 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Yes, finish it! The second season was so amazing!

Haha, what did you try watching after seeing Mystery Inc?

Date: 2015-04-01 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelykitta.livejournal.com
I tried some of the older stuff again, like 13 Ghosts and a few of the animated movies. It just wasn't the same. I mean, it was still good in its own way but it felt a pale comparison to Mystery Inc.

Date: 2015-04-01 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
I liked the older movies - like Scooby Doo and the Ghouls' School. I loved Tanis.

[there was an adorable sequel fic on ff.net at one point]

Date: 2015-04-01 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelykitta.livejournal.com
Ghouls' School is awesome!

Date: 2015-04-01 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelykitta.livejournal.com
Bwahahahaha! That is awesome!

Date: 2015-04-01 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
It's one of my favorite Scooby fics [I have it bookmarked on my DS - he also has an awesome King Arthur and the Knights of Justice fic that neatly finishes the series]

Date: 2015-04-01 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
OMG, I've read (and reviewed) that King Arthur fic!

Date: 2015-04-01 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
I love how he finished off the series [and reunited Gwen and Arthur <3]

And I could buy Tone and the ones that stayed behind doing just that.

Date: 2015-04-01 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Yeah, it was kind of awkward to watch the Arthur/Gwen stuff as an adult and think that in order to convince Gwen that he was Arthur, I'm sure he'd have to sleep with her... So was it technically adultery, then? XD

But yeah, since the boys are basically reincarnations of the Knights of the Round Table, it makes sense that there would be a Gwen in the future as well. :)

Date: 2015-04-01 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
You know, I never thought about it like that, but you are right. But is it really adultery since it is Arthur, just a much later version?

I wonder how they would have used Mordred in that universe. Thoughts?

Date: 2015-04-02 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
I have a hard time seeing that world's Morgana getting together with Arthur, but I DO wonder what the Gwen/Arthur/Lance triangle might have looked like...

Date: 2015-04-02 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
That could have been really interesting

(I would have loved that instead of the samurai we got in S2. That made no sense)

What did you think of the Tone/Morgana romance, even if it was the result of magic on her part?

Date: 2015-04-02 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Wow, I don't even remember the Samurai character!

....Nor do I remember the Tone/Morgana romance!

Apparently I need to rewatch that series. XD

Date: 2015-04-02 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
Samurai in the plural sense (the Purple Horde)

Um.. I want to say Tone/Morgana happened in the last episode (Tone's Triumph)

Date: 2015-04-01 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm too afraid of being disappointed with other material. It just seems like Mystery Inc made it really hard for anything to follow it up!

Date: 2015-04-01 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelykitta.livejournal.com
That it did, that it did.

Date: 2015-04-02 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
Okay, 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo was probably best not remembered [Flim Flam was more of a Scrappy than Scrappy], but Vincent Van Ghoul was awesome <3

[and I think Mystery Inc had a few shout-outs to it - such as Vincent Van Ghoul being an actor that Shaggy liked and that Flim-Flam was incarcerated/"we must never talk of him again"]

Date: 2015-04-02 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Yes, Vincent Van Ghoul was one of my favorite tidbits of the show (it helped that he was voiced by Maurice LaMarche, who voices Brain from Pinky and the Brain!)

Date: 2015-04-02 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
[and Egon from the Ghostbuster cartoons. Not to mention another rodent character in the form of Verminous Skumm from Captain Planet. And if you want to feel really old - he was Puzzle Popple. Ack!]

Date: 2015-04-01 01:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
I tried to watch that but just couldn't get into it

Date: 2015-04-01 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
I would say to give it a second chance if you feel like indulging in some fun mystery/horror mashup adventures. The character writing is really good.

Date: 2015-04-01 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
oh, don't get me wrong - there were a few episodes that I did like but eh, I guess I'm just a fan of the older series more. [Although, they can take "Pup named Scooby Doo" and shove that into the bowels of hell]

Date: 2015-04-01 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Is that the one with Scrappy doo?

Date: 2015-04-02 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Woof. That looks bad.

But the kid designs are actually kind of cute!

Date: 2015-04-02 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
It was - and one of the characters was named Red Herring

..you may definitely groan

Re: bwahaha

Date: 2015-04-02 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Heh, I'm Velma too!

Date: 2015-04-02 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormyserenity.livejournal.com
That sounds... good. O_o I kind of want to watch it now. I've never been a scooby doo fan, though I have a soft spot for "Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost" because it has singing "Wiccans" called the Hex Girls who sing about magic and I love all songs about magic ever. So I like them but could happily skip the rest of the movie.

Date: 2015-04-02 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Then you will be delighted to know that the Hex Girls appear in major roles in several episodes of the show! I don't know how well they match up to any previous incarnations, but I thought they were really cool! (And so does Velma, and they're her favorite band in the show. :)

Date: 2015-04-02 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
I loved when Daphne joined the Hex Girls in that one episode :D
Such a catchy song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D04Mk4y1PP4

Date: 2015-04-02 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Yes, Daphne as a Hex girl was amazing!

Date: 2015-04-02 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
I think that was one of the episodes I did enjoy

[and le gasp! It had airs of the Phantom of the Opera]

Which reminds me I need to poke at a Phantom rabbit at some point XD ...because Beauty and the Beast isn't my only love XD

Date: 2015-04-04 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormyserenity.livejournal.com
I am indeed delighted! *bounce* Only I have to do homework so i can't watch TV now.

Date: 2015-04-08 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormyserenity.livejournal.com
Awesome! I have put some of the series on hold at the library, after finding it not free-on-netflix. Also dvds are good because i have a tiny dvd player with a screen so I can watch them in secret! Nobody needs to know my shameful TV habits.

Date: 2015-04-15 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Lol, I got the Junk monster from the hilarious modern art episode!

Date: 2015-04-15 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
Scare Bear which doesn't fit me at all XD

Date: 2015-04-30 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormyserenity.livejournal.com
So I watched some! And it is indeed a cute series and I want to watch more. But I gotta say, I was over Fred/Daphne by episode 2, and while I liked Daphne's loudly getting over him, Fred's realization of, "I'm not a guy anymore! I have feelings!" was just bizarro. Guys are people and people have feelings so why do you sound so shocked, Fred? O_o

I think I'll put the next few discs on hold from the library. =D Since I'm too cheap to pay amazon for episodes, I'd rather watch glitchy library dvds.

Date: 2015-04-30 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Glad you enjoyed what you watched so far!

As much as I liked how just...weird they make Fred in this version of the show, the Fred/Daphne relationship is a really slow burn. But by the end of the first season it's gotten really good (and it continues into the second season, too!) Once you find out more about Fred's past you'll see why he's such a bonehead at relationships, too.

Haha, I almost picked up the Matrix sequels (because I just watched Jupiter Ascending again in our second-run theater) from the library the other day and ended up putting them back due to the scratchy bottoms!

Date: 2015-04-30 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormyserenity.livejournal.com
So it does improve! I am not shocked, it seems like a series that would. I shall view more. Another thing I wish they'd do is have a few more skeptical... not PSAs exactly, but maybe a scary fortune teller followed by Velma explaining how they do it. Scooby Doo just seems like a show set up to inspire critical thinking and while I usually roll my eyes at PSAs just this once I wish they'd run with it a little more. Or maybe I've just been reading too much about people who fall for supernatural scams and wonder how many of them wouldn't if they saw the egg trick at an early age.

Also I have been watching My Little Pony and like everybody else in the world I have been bonked between the eyes by how good that show is.

Date: 2015-08-11 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
I was half-rooting for Daphne to go with Odnarb [the geek orc biker (and man, that will never stop being a weird thing to type)] during the phase where she and Freddy were separated granted, pretty much while he was wearing the mask.

Date: 2015-08-11 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ry-sabir.livejournal.com
Do I see shades of BatB?

As much as I liked that they took the time to separate Fred and Daphne, I (of course) love that they get back together in the end. I also love that Shaggy and Velma never truly get back together. It was super refreshing!

Date: 2015-08-11 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strongheartmaid.livejournal.com
Maayyyyyyyyyybe....

Agreed on the Shaggy/Velma not getting back together angle. That was nice to see that sometimes couples just don't work out for whatever reason and don't have to get back together to preserve the status quo

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